الحداثة ولا الأصولية ؟

Discussion dans 'Discussion générale' créé par L9ant, 14 Avril 2008.

  1. L9ant

    L9ant Accro

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    Dima kansme3 3la had l7adatha, w ma 3ammarni ma 3raft chnou hia ? kansme3 ghir l2oussouliyin kay3ayrou fel 7adathiyin kaygouloulihoum 3ilmaniyin w moul7idin, w lkhrin kaygouloulihoum dalamiyin w 2irhabiyin !

    Ymken t36iw chi ta3rif lhad jouj chraykat ?

     
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  2. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    al7adata f lma3na l7a9i9i dyalha , hiya l7adata lmadania hiya tarssikh mandouma kat7kam l3ala9at bayn afrad wa jama3at lmoujtama3 w machi mn ddarouri annaha tkoun katna9ad m3a ttachri3at ssamawiya wlwazi3 ddini bal bl3akss kat9dar tsnbat l2a7kam w l9awanin mnnou , illa anna tta9addoumiyin lmagharba aw adnab chouyou3iya lli tfattat , harbou blma3na l7a9i9i lel7adata w ja3lou mnnha hiya darb 9iyam lmoujtama3 hiya ttakhalli 3an ddin hiya ta9lid lmoujtama3at lgharbiya b ghad nadar 3an moumayyizat lmoujtama3 dyalna !

    l2oussouliya aw ssalafiya hiya f lma3na l7a9i9i dyalha , l2i9tida2 bi ssalaf ssali7 w mou7awalat tarssikh l9iyam ddiniya w mou7arabat jami3 anwa3 lfassad w l2in7ilal l2akhla9iu ma3a tatwirlmoujtama3 liyakoun moujtama3 youwakib l3assr ... illa anna l2oussouliyin dyalna harbou b had lma3na ssami w ja3lou mn ssalafiya , hiya tlbass fou9iya m9azzba w sandala w tatla9 l7aytek tta twalli gadha gad trikou !

    ay naw3 mn 2anwa3 tattarrouf kayjarr lmoujtama3 lttakhallouf bima fih tattarrrouf l2oussouli w tatarrouf l7adati ! bnnisba liya kifmma kaynin 2irhabiyin salafiyyine wizarat ddakhiliya kat7arabhoum machkoura 3la jouhoudha kaynin 2irhabiyin 7adatiyine dawla mghammda 3ayniha 3liha , li 7ajatin fi nafssi ya39oub !
     
  3. L9ant

    L9ant Accro

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    Ma kaynach 2 en 1 ? z3ma daba koulla 7aja 3ndha lma7assin w lmassawi2 dialha, la7adatha fiha tarssikh 9yam ddimo9ratya w 7o9o9 l2inssan w ta7rir lmar2a (men ddolm machi men l7wajey...) w l2oussoulya kadda33am 9yam l2akhla9 w kat7areb lfassab ! Nakhdou ghir lmzyana w nkhelliw lkhayba !
     
  4. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    lemmen ghat3awed zabourek ???

    7atta wa7ed fihoum ma kaybghi yssma3 l sawt l2i3tidal , wlla ymken lmou3tadiline lli msaken sawthoum bahet w makayttasma3ch , w ma kanssam3ou 7na ghi lharaj dyal lmoutatarrifine mn ljanibayn !
    ila 39alti ghi fach kan lharaj 3la ma youssamma b khouttat idmaj lmar2a f ttanmiya , nad koulla wa7ed kaydir massira dyalou bach ysta3rad l3adalat dyalou f zzan9a , l7adatiyyine mn jiha , w l2oussouliyine mn ljiha l2oukhra , w law kanou galssou f ma2ida dyal l7iwar w tna9chou b3a9laniya w b mawdou3iya w bdoun ay niyyat 2i9ssa2 ttaraf l2akhar mn lmou3adala , koun cheddou dik lkhoutta w khdaw mnnha lmazyan lli mattaf9ine 3lih bjouj , w khallaw dakchi lakhour 7tta lmn ba3d , jab llah lmalik tdarak lmaw9if , w dar lihoum missa b jouj !

    walakin wakha hakkak ana ba9i kangoul blli ddawla , ma 9aymach b lwajib dyalha ttoujah l2irhabiyyine l7adatiyine , dawla mghammda 3ayniha 3lihoum , w mtabb3a ghi bou la7ya , amma 9lil l7ya mkhallyah iharnat 3ala hawah ... allah ysla7 l2oumour .
     
  5. anaayoub

    anaayoub Accro

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    chokrane l9ant pour le sujet kif dima mawdou3 ysstahal ni9ach
    ana mtafa9 m3a nournat f ta3rif li 3ta l lmafhoum l7adata o mafhoum l2ossoulia
    walakine ma mtafa9ch m3ak a l9ant mnika tgoul bi ana l7adata fiha 9yam dyal dimo9ratya o ka tsstatni l2ousslia
    hit man mabadi2 l'islam choura o li hya dimo9ortaya l7adita
    7na n9adro nakhdo les regles dyawlna kamline man asslatna o man tarikhna machi b darouri ntab3o wa7ad 3ach trois ans f lmaghirb o mcha dowaz li b9a man 3omro f chi blad khra o ja radi ywarina achno ndiro
    ana ma ka ngoulch n7arbouh mais nkouno 7adirin mano 7it l7adata daba ka tsstanti ddine o ka t7awal tbayane bi anaho motajawaz
    hada ma kay 3nich bi ana l2ousslia hya li rada tkhdam lina mais f mandarha l7ali o nadra li khda 3liha ljami3 ma rada tnfa3na f walou ila ma kantch moderé o sayrat l3assr

    lkholassa eddine tabit o 3amro ma radi ytbadal khass l39oul dyal bnadam hya li tbadal o tnawar bach dowal dyalna tnfata7 o t9adam o takhod l9iam zwina dyal nass lkhrine ma damat ma ka tna9adch m3a ddine
     
  6. abdo_one

    abdo_one Visiteur

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    يقال مايلي

    لتدكير أن الفكرتين حالاتان شادتان فى الفكر المعاصر
     
  7. alexander

    alexander Weld Azrou Membre du personnel

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    je suis d acord avec ces 2 definitions, cependant je garde le sense actuel des mots. c-a-d osoliya ta3assob wa takhalof et 7adatha mobalagha fil in7ilal wa mo3adat addine. les 2 sont inacceptable. Allah yr7em l hassan attani, il disait "assalat wa mo3assara" les deux et avec moderation!
     
  8. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    Allah yra7mou w yghfar lih , raghm jami3 l2akhta2 dyalou , illa annahou kan ramz dyal l2i3tidal , kan Allah yra7mou salafiy 7atta noukha3 w 7adati libirali mounfati7 ! kayn lli kaychouf fih 3ala annahou kan kayjma3 f chakhssiya dyalou bezzaf dyal lmoutana9idat , walakin had lmoutana9idat , maymken itjam3ou ghir 3and chakhss b7al l7assan ttani ! allah yra7mou ! kan zamat liya l2oussouliyin b nafss l9adr bach zamat tta9addoumiyine , makanch kayfarra9 binathoum !
     

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