"العدل والإحسان": السعودية منعت دخول 360 حاجا اوفدتهم الجماعة

Discussion dans 'Scooooop' créé par @@@, 22 Décembre 2008.

  1. @@@

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    أعلنت مصادر بجماعة "العدل والاحسان" المغربية شبه المحظورة، أن السلطات السعودية منعت وفدا من 360 مسلما من جنسيات مغربية وأخرى افريقية واوروبية من أداء فريضة الحج لأن الجماعة هي التي تولت تنظيم سفرهم من إيطاليا.

    وأشارت جريدة "القدس العربي" إلى أنه كان من المفروض أن يتوجه الوفد في شهر تشرين الثاني/ نوفمبر الماضي ، إلى البقاع المقدسة من مطار ميلانو بشمال ايطاليا، لكن قبل الصعود إلى الطائرة بلحظات تلقى المنظمون رسالة مفادها أن سلطات الرياض تمنع هذا الوفد من التوجه نحو العربية السعودية، دون تقديم تفسيرات مقنعة.

    واعتبرت الجماعة أن يد المغرب تقف وراء عملية المنع، وقالت : "إن المنع جزء من حملة التضييق الجديدة التي تنتقل من المغرب إلى الخارج".

    وتولت "جمعية الإحسان" الإيطالية المكونة من أعضاء "العدل والإحسان" والمتعاطفين معها تسيير رحلات مناسك الحج خلال السنوات الأخيرة من استئجار الطائرة والفنادق في العربية السعودية وتولي شؤون التغذية وأساسا الإشراف الديني.

    وأثنى الشيخ عبد السلام ياسين زعيم هذه الحركة في أكثر من مناسبة في عروضه الدينية والدعوية على هذه الجمعية أكثر بكثير مقارنة مع باقي الجمعيات الأخرى المرتبطة بـ"العدل والإحسان" والتي تنظم الحج بدورها في مختلف دول الاتحاد الأوروبي، ولكن ليس بشكل لافت مثل "جمعية الإحسان" التي أصبحت مرجعا في هذا الشأن وتثير حنق السلطات المغربية وأصبح بعض مغاربة أوروبا يتهافتون للسفر معها.

    http://www.moheet.com/show_news.aspx?nid=202973&pg=32

     
  2. ikossan

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    o sa3oudiya ach dakhalha f had sda3at o chobo9at dial lamgharba ba3diyathom? yak masalmin o jayin y adiw fara2id l 7ajj?
     
  3. miss_clementine

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    ma3ndhach lha9 hadou jayin yhajo jayin lbayt lah machi jayin mhaba f swad 3youn sa3oudia bach tgol lihom la matjiwch
     
  4. anaayoub

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    bsr
    avant de repondre 3La le sujet sara7A ma kantch ka n7mal l3Adl wa al i7Ssan o chaykh yassine o lmouchkil howa ma kantch ka n3raf bzaf 3La ljama3a osara7a had lkorh ma kanch mabni 3La assass o kan ghalat o bghit na3Tadar 3La ga3 dak chi li galt f 7a9 hadouk nass bi doun ma ntbyin l7a9i9a dyal al omor

    pour le sujet sa3Oudia ma 3andha l7a9 tmna3 ta wa7Ed man l7Aj man ghir l dawa3I amnia o had nass ma kay 9issouch l2amn o je pense ke man 7a9hom ytba3O ssolotat sa3Oudia 9Ada2yne 3la had tamyiz

    ljama3a les fondement dyalha mkhalfine l wahabia bzaf o kay 9Awmo lmad lwahabi f lmaghrib li kay d3O b l2assass li ljihad alors ke ljama3A ka td3i ljihad nafss 9Abl kol chay2
     
  5. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    achno li khelak a si ayoub tbedel ra2y dyalek f hadouk nass li taysemiw rasshome "el 3adl wal ihssane" ?

    achno tatgoul f li taygoul bli chaf rassoul 3alayhi salate wa salam fel ya9ada ? achno tatgoul fli taykdeb 3la rassoul 3alayhi salate wa salam ? achno tatgoul f li f3awd maystenjed b lah taystenjed 3abd slam yassine wal3yadou bilah ?

    sir chouf el khourafate dyalhome hna
    من الخلافة الى الخرافة

    3awd feker akhouya mezyane o 9ra chwiya 3la mou3ta9adate SOFIYA el fassda.


    tantelbek akhouya bach temchi te9ra hna chwiya li anaka tahemti menhaj rassouli lah la ghayr lah isme7 lik, ama el wahabiya kife gelti taygoulouha ri a3da2 el islam makaynach chi fer9a smitha wahabiya

    http://www.wladbladi.com/forum/rouk...u-u-o-o-usu-u-ooe-u-u-o-u-us-o-o-u-o-u-u.html
     
  6. anaayoub

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    chouf a khouya fariss souna ana rah ma dakhalch m3ahom o ma dakhal m3a ta wa7ed rassoul sala allaho 3alyhi wa salam rah balagh da3wa dyalo o sala o li bgha ytaba3ha rah 3arfha bla ma ykoun la wahabi la 3adli la salafi

    al islam n9assam f snat 40 hijria l ahl ljama3a o chi3a o khawarij o ila bghiti n9dar ngoul lik 3lach o chkoun tra2ass kola madhab o kola wa7ed fine dar dawla dyalo o chkoun kano al atba3 dyalo lmouhim machi hada howa sujet

    3lach ghayrt nadra dyali fihom
    awaln hit la yo9adissouna achaykh o machi motassawifine o dalil howa ana abdsalam yassin khraj man zawya dyal chaykh 7amza li ano kan dima kay goul lihom raj3o li l3a9ida o ma t9adssouch chaykh
    ila gal bi ano chaf rassoul sala alho 3alyhi wa salam f hadik ro2ya ma kay 7a9ch lik tnkorha 3lih hit ayi inssan ya9dar ychouf rasoul oula ydir ayi ro2ya
    o bien sur ja f l7adit dyal rasoul sala allaho 3alyhi wa salam ana ma b9ach man nobowa ila ro2ya sali7a
    al 3adl wa al i7ssan rah ma kay stanjdouch b abdsalam yassine o dik lhadra dyal lkhilafa raha layssat bi ro2ya dyal chaykh bal hia kalam dyal ba3d nass f ljama3a

    bnissba l dak chi li galti bi ana lwahabia ma kaynach fa sma7 lia a khouya sir dkhol l les sites dyal la3rab o radi tchouf bi ana lwahabia wa9i3
    o l2assass dyalhom howa ljihad fi sabil allah ghir ta3rif dyalhom dyal ljihad ghalet
    had les mouvements li tssamaw b salafia o salafia ljihadia rah dhar 3andan b7alhom li howa salafia l7adatia o 3alal al fassi allah yra7mo man nass li tbanaw had l2afkar o bghaw nfita7 lmaghrib fi dil al i9tida2 bi salaf sali7

    ana ma ka n3ayr ta madhab hit kol wa7ed fih ma7assin o massawi2 walakine lkhatar al akbar howa khatar al jihad bi doun ma3rifa li kay di li al irhab
     
  7. ikossan

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    salam, khouya faris sonna, hada johd mannek machkour annak tbayan mawa9i3 lkhalal li chafouha khossoum jama3at al 3adl wal i7san, walakin kan min l'a7ra ta3ti maw9i3 had ljama3 li bgha ya3ref asl fikr had ljama3a o ach tataktab f maw9i3ha rasmi machi ach taytgal 3and ghirha.
    f had l7ala kol 7okm tayab9a na9ess.
    hada maw9i3 ljama3a : http://www.aljamaa.net/ar/index.asp
    omaw9i3 l 'ostad abdessalam yassin: http://www.yassine.net
    ohadi ba3d rodod 3la li ja f site dial min lkhilafa ila lkhorafa:
    http://www.aljamaa.net/ar/detail_khabar.asp?id=3473&IdRub=27
    http://www.aljamaa.net/ar/detail_khabar.asp?id=2975&IdRub=27
    na9raw lfikr dial had ljama3a ba3da bach nfahmo a7kam lghayr 3liha 3an bayina
     
  8. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    khouya le3ziz el 3adl wal ihssane dahir dyalhoume el imane lakine el batine dyalhoume chirk bilah ta3ala, mechkour 3la el mawa9i3 mabritch an7ethome li ana kayne di3af el anfouss li imken lihome imchiw m3ahome fel khet lakine tantleb men lah ihdihome wiredhome radane jamila el tari9 el mousta9im.
     
  9. L9ant

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    bayna d99a jayya men ddakhilia dl mghrib...

    Sinon, ma 3ndi la m3a jama3a la m3a wahhabyia !! ghir w kan l3adl fihoum wa7d l9adia mzyana bzzaf w hia annahoum kaynabdou l3ounf bi jami3 asnafih et ils ne font que s'exprimer, w hada f nadari men 7e99houm !
     
  10. anaayoub

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    chrik? 3tini chi madhar dyal chirk bi allah f ljama3a? wach nta a khouya radi tbda tkafar f 3ibad allah tani? nass ka dir 9yam layl kay 3abdo allah o nta ka tgoul lina chirk ? 3andek chi dalil 3la chirk dyalhom?
    aji ba3da wach 3achrtihom bach ta3rfhom o wach 7adar l mjaliss dyalhom? rah khass 3 ayam dyal lmo3achara bach t7kam 3la nass
     
  11. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    anta dima tatebghi tjadel o el mouchkile matate3tich dalil.

    asidi rah taygoulou bli chafou rassoul 3alayhi salate wa salam fel "ya9ada" wach fhemti achno me3na el ya9ada ? chafouh o 3inihoume me7louline !!! ach tgoul f hadi ?

    ila nkerti bli 3abd slam yassine machi sofi 3tini dalil ama hadak machi dalil asi ayoub ay wahed taymken lih ikhroj men "zawya" lakine tayb9a met3ele9 b sofiya!



    wach tangoulik bli li taysemi nass wahabiyine houma el a3da2 onta tatgouliya sir dkhol les sites dyal le3reb ? rah tandwi m3ak b tarikh dir be7t 3la chkoune houwa mouhamed bnou 3abd el wahab o achno, o fach ja kife l9a el khalij o ach dare o lach d3a nass, hadik sa3a 7kem, ila l9iti chi wahed galik ana wahabi 3erfou messkine ri taykherbe9, tatemchi el mawa9i3 dyal s7ab el bida3 o chi3a tayshab lik dakchi bese7 !! lah ihdina wihdik, 9ra mezyane o jib dalil lah ikhelik,
     
  12. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    hada 7al men a7wal sofiya,


    machi li taydir 9iyame layl radi an7ekmo 3lih a si ayoub rak ghalet, lay i7fedni wibe3edhoume 3liya bach an3acher b7al hadak nou3, lakine 9rit koutob dyal sidhome 3abd slam yassine, o dert khoulassa bli el 3a9ida dyalo o el afkar dyalo fassda,

    chirk bilah taytmetel f ziyarate el 9obor wel adri7a wel istinjad biha, li hiya miza tatkhes biha sofiya, ama men na7iyate "SIDI" fa 7adit wa la 7araj makayn ri sidi boutchich sidi ...., lah ihdihome, 3abd slam yassine rah bani adame taysib o taykhte2 o tantelbo lih el hidaya men 3end lah soubhanah.
     
  13. anaayoub

    anaayoub Accro

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    ana radi ndwi m3ak no9ta b no9ta
    nta mtafa9 m3aya bi ana 3abdsalam yassine ma b9ach m3a sofia walakine nta ka tgoul bi ano wakha yba3ad manhom lmabadi2 dyalo rada tb9a hia hia o hada 7okm b lghayb la ya3lamouho ila allah hit nta ma 3arfch achno f nafss dyalo

    tani 7aja ana galt lik kifach ta khla sofia o 3lach khlaha

    ana hna machi bach ndafa3 3lihom oula bach nd7ad nadaraya dyal nass lkhrine mais kif nta ma 3zizch 3lik li y3ayr choyoukh li ka t7tarmhom fa nta ma khassakch t3ayr choyoukh dyal nass lkhrine o t7tarama lmo3ta9adat dyalhom f blasst ma tn3athom b chirk li howa danb la yoghtafar 3and allah

    galti ano chaf rassoul ya9ada ka nt7adek tjib lia chi dalil 3la had chi hit howa chafo f lmanam

    had la video li jabti daba achno li jak fih dad ljama3a douk nass li dawine ? rah kayni nass kay darbo b l7jar f zna9i o kay goulo lik 7na salfyine rah kayn nass 9atlo khouthom b issm salafia

    mo7amad bno 3abd al wahabi tamimi 3ando afdal kbira o ahmha izalat al adri7a o man ba3d? wach had syed kayn ghir howa? rah bzaf dyal nass daro had chi

    wach 3amrek 7darti l 3abd salam yassine f chi majliss? o sma3ti hadrto o ma tgoulch lia sma3t o galo lia ana ka ntkalam 3la achno chafti nta

    galti l3a9ida dyalo fassida o hadchi khata2 o lmanhajia dyalo ka tad3i li al i3tidal

    akhir 7aja ghir mola7da dartha dernierement ana salafia sawad al a3dam f lmaghirb li mtab3ha houma al omyine o maline l3assir o tmar o lkraress o l3adlyine houma taba9a lmota9afa al motadyina f lmaghrib
    wach lmosstawa ta9afi wach ljahl howa sabab allaho a3lam

    ama dik lhadra li sma3ti f la video dakhla f ghaybyat galouha hadouk nass kay amno biha kif ma kay amno chi3a b dak la3jab dyalhom kif ma kay amno salafyine b dak chi dyalhom o ro2a dyalhom o kay amno 3amat lmouminine b lghaybyat li jat f l9or2ane

    ila jak dak chi li kay goulo takhrif rah kayn li radi tgoul lih jibril w9af 3la rassoul salal alho 3alyhi wa salma bin sma o al ard o 3ando 600 jna7 radi ygoul lik thala rani zarbane
    donc kif ma ayi inssan 3ando mo3ta9dat dyalo li mt2akad man anaha s7i7a y3raf rah sa2ir nass 3andhom mo3ta9dat

    o aham 7aja hia ma ygoulch 3lihom kofar hit machi howa li nazal dine
    hadik lhadra dyal sidi rah mantachra fina kamline o hia naw3 man al i7tiram la ghayr

    9ra 3la l'islam f lmaghirb o al assl dyalo o ma tamchich zalag m3a riwaya dyal sa3oudia li ka tkhssar 3liha zbabal dyal lflouss o kola chaykh dayrine lih ida3a o nass ma la9ya ma takol
     
  14. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    mnine wselti el had daraja dyal el istihza2 b khoutek lemselmine o b had rou2ya dyalek (maline el 3assir, el omiyine,...) maradich ankemel m3ak el mouna9acha o kane hada akhir mawdo3 tna9echt m3ak fih li anak tatebghi tjadel bi ghayri 3ilm wa bi ghayri adila, wa tbe3 el moutasawifa o dafe3 3lihome...


    ( kent brit anjib lik adila men el koutoub dyalo lakin makayn lach anjibha ila kenti anta tadwi bi ghayri adila o tatet3en f hadchi li houwa b nefssou ketbo) INTAHA
     
  15. anaayoub

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    a wadi daba nta kay b9a fik l7al o safi
    khoutek lmssalmin li darbatek 3lihom nafss 3ad kanti ka tgoul 3lihom mouchrikine ghir daba ila jatek nta maline l3assir ma3youra hadi hadra khra

    hadik une simple constation t9dar tkoun khat2a t9dar tkoun s7i7a o ana biensur ntal9t man lwa9i3 li dayr bia bach dartha
    ana ma ka ndafa3ch 3lihom ana ka ndafa3 3la l'islam li baghi t7takro nta o trado dyal jama3a wa7da 3la 7ssab lkhrine o li gal lik ok rah allah yardi 3lih li gal lik la rah mouchrik

    ma bghitich tna9ach 7a9ek hadek mais kay byan ghir 3la ta3ssob dyalek l ra2y lwa7id

    salafia hia l9tida2 b salaf sali7 o 7na kamline hakdak o bach tfham ayi jama3a o achno ta7t rassha chouf doroufha o chouf kifach tchaklat
    sir sawal rassek fine kanet sa3oudia o salafia dyalha mni kan lmaghirb ka t9om fih dowal 9wia o kant ka tnchtachar fih zawya o kan fih tasawof ? oula ghir daro labass walaw houma zwinine?

    hadouk nass li kay 3ajbouk o kay yjiwk to9at wach kay diro dak chi li amarna bih rasoul oula kay tjawzouh 3la anfosshom?
    mni kay 7armo l9tirad man l2abnak man ajl lmasskan o syarat o houma 3aychine f na3im kif bgha tkoun 3andhom missda9ia? yzahdo houma lawline f l7ayat o ha 7na m3ahom
    mni kola chaykh 3ando 9anat dyalo tala3 b des millions de dollars mnin jah dak chi?
    mni dine wala kay tba3 o ytchra o walaw fih les lobys ta howa allahom l3ozla o allah rah 3arfino fine kayn o rassol kif galt lik gbila rah balagh rissalto 3la akmal wajh ghir hdi rassek ama ryouss nass rahom 9adine biha
    a ssi lmousslim sali7 li ma kay bi3ch l3assir
     
  16. ikossan

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    makayan lach twaslo lhad ljidal, ana 3tit ajwiba min maw9i3 jama3at l'3adl wal i7san, had nass sad9o o wfaw b li galo, min nhar bano o homa 3la klamthom matghayroch.mabadi2hom bayna: la lil3onf; la lisiria, la lida3m lkhariji.
    jama3a ana 3acharthom f la fac o min ba3d la fac lmodda twila o mchit m3ahom lmokhayamat o 7dart l kol anwa3 lmajaliss dialhom, l9ithom achad nass ba7tan f sonnah o kitab llah o achad nass 7oban lil khayr lil moslimin bchata asnafhom.
    li bgha ya7kam b 3ilm 3la chi ta2ifa ya9ra lfikr dialha ba3da.
     
  17. @@@

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    bnadem howa lli yatsannat la3damou.ch7al men wa7ed datou la curiosité bach ya9ra 3la chi ta2ifa w l9a rasou ghare9 .
     
  18. anaayoub

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    hia daba ma n7tako b ta 9awm ma n3arfo achno ta7t rosshom hit n9Adro nwaliw m3ahom?
    ya3ni lba7t f ta9Afat dyal nass lkhrine fih un danger 3Lina?
     
  19. @@@

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    ce n'est pas ça que je veux dire à ssi Ayoub.
    tu sais trés bien combien de peronne ont été influencé par l'idéologie salafiste 7ta w7alna m3ahoum.w rak 3aref leur language.
    tathdar m3a bnadem taygoul lik l'jihad.
     
  20. @@@

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    ce n'est pas ça que je veux dire à ssi Ayoub.
    tu sais trés bien combien de peronne ont été influencé par l'idéologie salafiste 7ta w7alna m3ahoum.w rak 3aref leur language.
    tathdar m3a bnadem taygoul lik l'jihad.
     

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