بدعة الاحتفال بالمولد النبوي

Discussion dans 'الفقه وأصوله' créé par فارس السنة, 12 Mars 2008.

  1. @@@

    @@@ Accro

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    awalane ana machi men hadouk lli smitihoum "inna 3akassna" .
    ana wa7ed men bezaf diyal lamgharba lli 7taflou bhad l3id sa3id
    w salou ra7im w far7ou wladhoum .
    w al7amdo li allah had lamgharba homa lli ktar .


    amma hadouk lli taygoulou rah l3id nabawi 7ram aw bid3a rahoum 9lal ,
    w 9lal bezaf , w hadouk homa lli n9adrou ngoulou 3lihoum "inna 3akassna"
    3la 7a9ach homa lli bghaw ybadlou lina ta9alid diyalna w yghayrou mojtama3na .
    w ydakhlou lina lwaswas lrasna .

    je crois dakchi lli nzid ngoul lik rah déjà gueltou l "Fariss souna" .
    yla 3andek chi aya aw chi 7adith lli taygoul had l3id 7ram aw bid3a jebdou .
    yla ma kayen walou , bla ma ntawlou had l7adith !
    l'oumour bayna .
     
  2. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    khouya , nta ghir sawalti 3ala ddawla lmaghribiya 3lach kat7tafal w ana jawbtek , w cheftek miyyakti 3la dak ljawab kayban liya b7al ila ma 3ajbakch , la79ach 9an3ak , ila 3andek chi ta39ib 3la dak ljawab nawwarna , ma 3andek tta ta39ib goul passe )))

    si non a khouya , chetti f ga3 had lmoudakhalt dyawlek 7aja wa7da lli 3ajbatni , hiya hadi :

    za3ma lli ma kay7tafalch bih lhla ydakhal 3la bouh chi sa77a wlla chi hna looool

    a sidi allah yraz9ak ssi7a w l3afiya w lhna w lmaghfira w lhidaya w rra7ma swa 3ayadti swa ma 3ayadtich !
     
  3. ABOU IMANE

    ABOU IMANE SAHBANE

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    khouya..l2i7tifale 8ouwa mounassaba ijtima3ya jamila..tarsode aye forssa bache tetjalla fe ab8a souwar8a..lyoume 3ay6ate li lwalida..ou galete li ..mabrouk l3ide..wache ngoulli8a lla a mmi ra8 machi 3ide 8ada??
    l2i7tifale b3ide lmawlide annabawi..yekoune ja2ize awe ghayre ja2ize..kayeb9a mounassaba raskha fina kanmarssou fi8a 3ala9atna l3a2ilya ou l2ijtima3ya..fe jawe dyal tasamo7 ou l7obe..ou silate arra7ime...
     
  4. فارس السنة

    فارس السنة لا اله الا الله

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    عدرا رسول الله فانهم لا يعلمون كم أنك أكرم و أشرف من هدا و ان كانو يعلمون ما فعلوه و ما يفعلوه
    سامحنا يا رسول الله قصرت أيدينا عن الدفاع عنك و ان كانو من بين من ينتمون الى أمتك و لا حول و لا قوة الا بالله
    يا كل محب لرسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم ...اتق الله اتق الله اتق الله في نفسك
    لوكان فيما تفعلونه خيرا لفعله نبينا صلى الله عليه و سلم و هو الدي لا ينطق عن الهوى
    لو كان فيه خيرا لفعله الصحابة و تابعيهم من بعد موته صلى الله عليه و سلم و هم خير القرون
    يا من يحتفلون بعيد ابتدعوه مادا أنتم قائلون لربكم غدا؟ يوم تقفون أمام ربكم سبحانه و يشهد حسابكم رسول الله عليه الصلاة و السلام؟ هل ستقولون له بأننا اكتفينا بالاحتفال بيوم واحد لم يشرعه لا ربنا و لا نبينا ؟ أما كان الأفضل اتباع سنته عليه الصلاة و السلام ؟ بالصلاة في وقتها و بر الوالدين و صلة الرحم و بصلاة الجماعة في المسجد ؟ قفو أمام أنفسكم قبل أن تقفو أمام ربنا سبحانه دعو التعصب جانبا وحكمو عقلكم و قلبكم فو الله لن ينفعكم أحد
     
  5. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    khouya , ma bghitch nban hna b7alchi wa7ed llikay3ti darss 3ala anna lma7abba w ttassamou7 w silat ra7im kaykhassha tmaras fsa2ir 2ayam llah , li 3iddat 2asbab , awwlan : li 2annani machi 2ahl li 2i3ta2 mitl had lmawa3id , taniyan , lmoutala99i , akbar mn an yssma3 lmaw3ida b7al hadi , w talilatan w hadi hiya l2aham , li2anna l7ikma f tachri3 l2a3yad imken wllahou 2a3lam fiha had lmass2ala ...

    ghir lli bghit ngoul howa anna ila kant hadi mounassba jtima3iya , fa ma kayn lach nlabssouha ghita2 dini , li2anna ma la yajouz swa f dikra b7al hadi swa f sa2ir 2ayam llah , houwa lgholow f ddin , w ch7al mn 7aja kanchoufouha katmaress f lmaghrib , f had dikra , hiya ghoulouw f ddin , w gholow fi ma7abbat rrassoul3alayhi ssalatou wa ssalam , kat9dar twssal 7atta l chirk billah ...

    bnnisba ltabadoul ttahani , ana chakhssiyan , ma kanbarek l7al b7al had lmounassabat , walakin ila tla99it mn3and chi wa7ed tta7iya kanreddha lih , w matalan , ila lwalida dyali , galt liya mabrouk 3idek , ghanjwabha b 2a7la mn ta7iyetha , w nzid khelfa , w nkhalli 7tta yfout had nhar wlla nhar d 3achoura2 , w njbed liha lmawdou3 b tari9a mzyana w nna9chou m3aha b chi tari9a lli zwina ...

    ana chakhssiyan ya khouya , machi 3alim , machi moutafa99ih f 2oumour ddin , ana wa l3iyadou billah mn 9awli ana , inssan mn l3amma , lli kay7awel ma 2amkan ytta9i lmassa2il lli ma tcharr3atch , w lli fiha jidal , wlli katb9a choubha , l2i7tifal b 3id dini , kan3tabrou 3ibada , kantlob mn llah itabbat li fih l2ajr liya w lmousslimine jmi3 , w ila kan hada machi 3id , kantloub mn llah itabbat liya fih 2ajr itti9a2 choubha , 3ta llah lfara2id lli ma kandirouhach , w 3ta llah sounan lli makan3arfouha ga3 , lach ghantchabbat b had l3id , lli makan la f3ahd rrasoul la f 3ahd lkhoulafa2 ???

    hada ra2y chakhssi wllahou 2a3lam ! allah ysma7 lina jmi3 w yghfar lina jami3an !
     
  6. L9ant

    L9ant Accro

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    Wa7d loumoula7ada bssita wakha ma kanfhemch fel islam :

    Houwa ila Rassoul sws ma galch n7taflou b 3id lmilad dialou fa hadi ghadi tkoun bid3a l2anna had l3id 3ndou sibgha dinia !

    Lmouchkil houwa daba ila safi khdina bhad rra2y, ghadi ynoudou s7ab had lmaw9if ghadi ygoullik 3id 3achoura 7ram, ghadi tgoullih wakha, w men be3d ydourlik l 3id l3arch w 3id lmassira w 3id lmar2a w 3id choughl w 3id zid w zid w ygoullik khalli ghir l3id sghir w lkbir w chi lakhour koullou bida3 w tachabbouh bil kouffar !! w hadchi lli ma baghich annahoum ybdaw ynajrou bchwia b chwia w ydewzoulina l2fkar dialhoum !!

    w lhad ssabab b ddab6 3lach ddawla lmaghribia kat7tafel rassmian b 3ad l3id l2annaha katchacha3 ssoufia (w lli fiha had lbid3a) 3la 7issab lwahabbya (lli khatira 3la l2aln rrou7i lel mgharba min wijhat nadar ddawla... w wijhat nadari tta ana)
     
  7. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    khouya l9ant s7ab had lmaw9if ma ghadich ydouzou mn ba3d l3achoura2 , li2anna 3achoura2 machi 3id .... donc ma ghaydouz lih 7ad , wa ddalil 3ala dalik houwa anna rrassoul 3alayhi ssalatou wa ssalam , assanna siyam yawm 3achira2 w ma 3tabrouch yawm 3id !

    amma bnnissba lelmounassbat lkhrine , dikra lmassira , sti9lal , 3id l3arch , ila 2akhirih , fa hiya mounassabat wataniya ... w ma kat7mal 7atta chi sibgha diniya , takhlid dikra l2isti9lal wlla lmassira lkhadra , wach yajouz wlla la yajouz hadak mawdou3 khour , koulla y9dar ydli fih b dalwou w bwijhat nnadar dyalou ...

    kanwaf9ak rra2y f mass2alat, ttassawouf lli 3tamdou nnidam , ka sila7 li mou7arabat , lawahhabiya , khassatan f had l2awakhir , ma3a bourouz tayyar moutarrif f lmaghrib , hadi wa9a2i3 maymken linach ntjadlou fiha , w hna kayban bi2anna dawla , katstakhdem ddin li 2aghrad siyassiya , chay2 lli hiya nafssha kat7awel t7arbou ! ana kangou anna l2islam , ma kay3taraf la b wahhabiya , la b tassawwouf la b tachayyou3 , l2islam akbar mn lwahhabiya , w 2akbar bi katir mn ttassawouf , lli wa l3iyadou billah kaynzal fi katir mn l2a7yan l chirk l2akbar !

    idan ila 3tabarna , anna lwahhabiya fiha naw3 mina tatarrouf w lmoughalat , fa hal yajouzou mou7arabatouha , bi madhab lli fih anwa3 mina chirk ???
     
  8. L9ant

    L9ant Accro

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    Je ne suis pas si sûr : had nass ma kayfar9ouch ma bin 3id dini w wa6ani :

    http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Article&iw_a=view&article_id=4763

    Chouf ghir hadi : tta l2al3ab l2oulampya gallik 7ram lmousslimin ycharkou fiha 7it fel 2assl kant 3id dial lyounan :

    http://www.wladbladi.com/forum/roukn-al-mouslim/94702-o-o-uso-o-o-u-u-u-o-o-o-u-o-u-o-u-o.html

    Machi l7ama9 hada ???

    Donc lli bghit ngoul, houwa la b9ina mtab3in had lkhoot rah mma3ert fin nwaslou !!
     
  9. nournat

    nournat Wld l3iyachiya

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    a khouya l9ant , 3andna 39alna kanfakkrou bih wkanmayzou bih , ila wa7ed l2imam 2afta , b chi mass2ala , lli bant liya ghayr manti9iya w ma t9abbalthach w lgit dala2il char3iya bi 2annaha moujaniba li ssawab , fa hada makay3nich anna mlli mn ba3d ifti b fatwa lli sa7i7a wlli jatni manti9iya , ma ghan3malch biha ghi bach ma ntab3ouch !

    donc machi ghangoulou 7bass !!! ghan7aydou had l9adiya dyal bid3a 7aram , mn l9amouss dyalna char3iy , la79ach koulchi wlla bida3 w yallah ncharr3ou ga3 lbida3 bach ma n7asslouch mn ba3d f 2al3ab lba7r l2abyad lmoutawassit !
     
  10. fati5

    fati5 lamgajfa

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    j'ai pas lu tous les commentaires mais bayenli beli kayna wahed lhaja mohima nssinaha wela yamkan ma3arfinhach wahiya:

    had yawm mawlid nabawi charif rah c'est le même jour de sa mort 3alayh salam, dakchi 3lach hiya machi 3id mais dikra, rabi j3al justement nhar milado howa nhar mawt dialo salalaho 3alayh wasalam 7ikma man 3ando pour éviter la7tifal bih oja3lo dikra natfakro biha dakchi li dar f 7yato on7awlo nsa7e7o akhta2na on3icho 3la dikrah sala laho 3alayh wasalam, alors l3idayn li f din rah baynin (lakbir o sghir), odikra kayna ghir wahda li hiya DIKRA mawlid nabawi charif, et 3achoura, fate7 mo7aram,...etc n'ont aucune relation avec ces évenements. voilà mon opinion!
     
  11. maximo-27

    maximo-27 Ghost

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    kolon yagani 3ala laylah
    9atloni b dahek 1 chaine dyal chi3a galek 3aza2e istichhaad al rasol al a3dam mo7amed sws
    iwa kola wmfaser din dyalo kif bga
    f had sujet la darara wla dirar wala golow li bga ybayen al ma7aba l rasol sws rah baf3alo wbitiba3 hadyih machi b chafawi
    ama li7tifal b had dikra rah ma3andoch asel f din gir lmgarba itakhdoha ka monasab li silat al ra7em wbima ana men al 3ada dyalna kan diro men al 7aba 9oba rah wsalna lhad natija dyal 3id rasmi yo7tafalo bih
    aham haja may konch al golow w salam
     
  12. anaayoub

    anaayoub Accro

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    salam
    ma 3andich maw9if mo7dad man had lmounassaba , ma kay yjinich 3id et en meme temps je ne peux pas admettre que c'est une bid3a pour la simple raison que ca ne fait du mal a personne
    mni ka ngoulo bid3a wa koli bid3a dalala o wa kolo dalalatin fi nar rah automatiquement ka ngoulo bi ana li 7taflo radin l nar
    ghir lwa7ed ytkayss chwia o safi

    Ps: rah machi ayi 7aja ma kantch f 3ahd rassol sala allaho 3alyhi wa salam raha bid3a si non radi ngoulo raha bina2 lma2adine bid3a o al adan b lbo9 bid3a o zakhrafa dyal jwame3 o l9or2an f radio o talfaza o bzaf dyal l7wayj akhrine o had chi rah kan ta howa mawdo3 jadal o tgalt 3Lih bid3a ila wa9tine 9Arib o man ba3d wala kolchi kay yakhdo 3adi o ni9Ach fih sala
     
  13. maximo-27

    maximo-27 Ghost

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    hada ma yostala7o 3alayeh b al bid3a al 7asana [22h]
    ps:al dahik 3ala al 3o9ol al sagira nhar kolo wana kan la7ed had lmostala7 a ba ayoub chapeau bas mon ami
     

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